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155: Why Won’t They Let You In? REAL Avoidant Attachment Truths | In the Trenches with Tom Stroud

The Sabrina Zohar Show

The Sabrina Zohar Show

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4.94.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Sabrina sits down with Tom Stroud from Love Is Blind UK to tackle your biggest dating dilemmas—avoidant attachment, emotional intelligence, and why modern dating feels so polarized. They debunk myths like "if he wanted to, he would", discuss texting anxiety, and share personal stories of growth from avoidance to security.

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0:00.0

Hello, hello, hello.

0:02.2

Welcome to another episode of the Sabrina Zohar Show.

0:04.5

My name is Sabrina Zohart, and I am your host.

0:07.2

Welcome back, babes. We're in the trenches this week. Let's fucking go. We're answering your questions. And guess what? I have Tom Stroud from Love is Blind UK. Don't worry. We don't talk a ton about the show. We talk about you guys. You wrote in. You can send screenshots if you guys want to in the trenches at Sabrina Zahar.com, but we are here to help.

0:05.0

We're going to answer them all, and I'm so fucking... You wrote in, you can send screenshots, if you guys want to, in the trenches at Sabrina Zahar.com.

0:21.8

But we are here to help. We're going to answer them all, and I'm so fucking excited and just grateful for you guys. Thank you to everybody for reading, reviewing, leaving a comment. Anywhere you listen, Spotify, YouTube, I don't get a shit. Just leave me a heart. Let me know what you think. And if you need anything, I'm here. And guys, big news, big announcement, now is the time.

0:20.7

So at the end of this month, and if you need anything, I'm here. And guys, big news, big announcement.

0:38.5

Now is the time. So at the end of this month, and if you're listening beyond this, sorry about you. We'll have new things coming. But at the end of this month, we have the self-love, the breakup, and the nervous system course are going to be gone for good. Now, what that means is if you get it now on sale, you'll have lifetime access. So it's not like it's ever going to be taken away, but you won't be able to purchase it beyond the end of the month because new things are coming. I have so many things in the works for you guys, a lot of things that are passion projects of mine that I really wanted to launch. And so now is the time. So join the courses if you want them. And if not, welcome to the family. Sit down, have a cup of coffee, and let's fucking get into it without further ado.

1:13.1

Hey, Tom. Hey, Sabrina. I'm so excited to have you. Thank you. I'm sorry to be here. Welcome from a very long side of the pond. This was a trip over just for me. Absolutely, just for you. Yeah. So we're going to do a week of filming and then I'm going to go home. It's perfect. It's all we wanted to do. I'm so excited

1:11.0

to have you. We are, guys, today as always, it's in the trenches and we're going to do a week of filming and then I'm going to go home. It's perfect. It's all we wanted to do. I'm so excited to have you. We are, guys, today, as always, it's in the trenches and we're going to

1:31.4

answer your questions and we're going to go into it and we're going to help you. And the reason I wanted Tom to be here, obviously because I love you and I wanted you here, but because I think you have a lot of great insight to offer. And I think getting a male perspective that's in a different place

1:27.9

in a different country that we can also see that it's the same shit everywhere is going to be

1:31.4

really helpful. But before. insight to offer. And I think getting a male perspective that's in a different place, in a different

1:44.5

country that we can also see that it's the same shit everywhere is going to be really helpful. But before we get into that, I want to know, could you share a little bit about you? And I think your journey is really interesting and fun because I think you had something that the average person doesn't necessarily have in the type of mirror that you had, but I'd love to hear from you. How'd you get here? Sure. All right. Well, look, I mean, I've been dating on enough 25 years, right? I'm 40 this year. And I have an avoidant attachment style. That's something which I came to realize a bit later on in my dating journey. And it was something that had to kind of deal with it. What we'll talk about today is avoidance, right? But then I was lucky enough to get casted for a show called Love is Blind, which I'm sure you guys all know.

2:02.5

Love is Blind UK. Had an amazing time on it.

2:22.6

My storyline was pretty polarising, you know? It was all about, yeah, like gender roles and

2:28.6

this provider mentality versus modern masculinity and all these kinds of big talking points. And

2:33.7

yeah, from that, I ended up sort of interrogating a lot further, creating a podcast as well, because we love podcasting, which is all about male behavior and dating and relationships, which all that stuff apart a lot. And yeah, and I also host a men's group, I have a men's group back home where we sort of talk about this stuff. What have you been seeing? Because I think it's really interesting that you, even your storyline, right, having to be that polarizing. And like, I do think you got a bad edit, but that's like for another day and another conversation. But I think your story was also really exemplifying a reality that I think a lot of people do need to face is that like it's okay for people to do things

3:08.1

differently. It doesn't mean either anybody is right or wrong or good or bad. It just means that maybe you're not compatible that maybe the two things that you want, right, don't really go. But I was curious and welcome to my brain. I'm like, God, I had like 17 questions. I'm like, which one do I want to go with first. But I was curious, what are you seeing now in dating after your experiences,

3:08.4

right? Now being more aware, really seeing things differently. What are you seeing in the dating world right now, being in it? And what I'm curious to like your avoidance, how it manifested in like in ways, because I think a lot of people that are listening maybe misunderstand, right? And I was worried, I didn't really

3:40.9

understand what avoidance was or like the lack of understanding. So let's start there. What's dating like?

3:45.7

Dayton, certainly, I mean, I host dating events across my city back home. I have a podcast. I do

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