Ladies and gentlemen hello internet Mike Erie coming at you from suburban Columbus Ohio joined in studio via Skype by another very intelligent guest

Mr. A.J Swaboda live from Portland, Oregon A.J. Swaboda, live from Portland, Oregon. A. J. How are you? How's the rain? How's the weather? How's the summer?

Well, it's not raining. It's the one kind of one day out of the year that it's not raining it's the one kind of one day out of the year that it's not and because of that my

vitamin D level is very high and I'm not depressed today so I'm well.

Portland from what little I'm not depressed today, so I'm well.

Portland, from what little I know of you, Portland very much seems a match for your sort of introspection.

And I love it. So Portland, I have loads of friends in Portland.

The first time I was ever there, I was there to meet John Mark Comer.

And from now, Bridgetownown Church but prior to that and we I'd never been there I'm

an Ohio guy living California which I think is you know pretty wacky. I come off the plane in Portland he

picks me up we go to this coffee shop there's a guy in a kilt and a fishnet t-shirt

with no sleeves and he wants to tell us as he's serving us coffee.

I mean I had chit just for the record.

He's telling us about his poetry and asked if we'd like to hear some of his poetry and he begins reciting his poetry off the cuff to us and I think to myself

First of all this is my city because he was he was a big guy in a

kill which I'm all for by the way I just I love that but then secondly I'm thinking

to myself this is fantastic this is so so I think by the way that I

think that's Jim he's one of our elders I'm you're describing him adequately.

Oh, I hope it is because he was he was a large man in a kiln and a fishnet like without sleeve shirt thing and it was amazing and I'm just going okay these these are

my people I never knew that but these are my people in the Midwest we call them rednecks

but out there yeah they just keep Portland weird. It's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah there are

mayors or city councillors or yeah no we institutionalize those kinds of

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