Hi, Latter Day struggles, friends and fans.

We know that navigating a faith crisis can feel overwhelming, especially when it impacts our closest relationships, our parents, our partners, and our kids.

That's why Valerie has created two online self-paced classes to help.

The first is a couple's guide to faith crisis and expansion.

This class is here for a partner

or couple who want to navigate faith shifts with mutual respect and deeper connection. Next is

a family's guide to mixed faith parenting. This class offers tools to help parents develop

greater harmony and understanding when belief differences arise within our families. Both classes are

packed with helpful tools and perspectives that can

give you hope and a way forward. So if you're looking for a little guidance on this,

visit laddarday struggles.com to learn more. And now let's start the show.

Hello. Hello, everyone. Welcome to Latter-day Struggles, your podcast for learning all about how to become a spiritually

and psychologically mature human being here in and around the Church of Jesus Christ

of Latter-day Saints.

Boy, do I have a treat in store

for you today. Today I'm here back with a dear friend of mine, Carolyn Pearson. Hello, Carolyn.

How are you? Hi to you. I am well. And thank you and bless you for having me on. I love to talk to you.

We have, it's been such a fun

journey with you, Carolyn. You began as, well, someone who I'd heard about as a child, but didn't

have any idea who you were. And then in the last few years, I began to read you. And I had a,

love, hate relationship with your books because they always just made me cry.

I just knew. Yay, we like that. Yes. They touched me to the core. And then when I was lucky enough to

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