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Mormon Stories Podcast

1507: Escaping the NXIVM Cult - Sarah Edmondson & Nippy Ames

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.55.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2021

⏱️ 161 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Edmondson and Nippy Ames are our guests for this epic Mormon Stories interview where we discuss their escape from the NXIVM cult. We discuss the similarities between NXIVM leader Keith Raniere and Joseph Smith, including secret societies existing within the larger group, and the similar tactics used to control so many people.

Sarah and Nippy share which vulnerabilities led them to become involved in NXIVM and once they were in, what tactics were used to get them to ignore red flags and their own instincts, even as far as Sarah allowing herself to be “branded” with Keith Raniere’s initials on her skin. How does one “wake up” after being willing to go so far?

Sarah and Nippy share their paths to regaining control of their own minds and bodies to face the hard truth about what they used to believe–and how they turn that devastation into a united determination to expose Keith for what he really is to the world. We hope you’ll resonate with Sarah and Nippy’s fascinating and gripping story!


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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of More Miss Stories podcast. I'm your host

0:04.2

Dr. John DeLin. It is November 13th, 2021 and we are so excited if you can believe it or

0:11.4

not to have with us in studio today. Sarah Edminson and Nippy Ames. How are you guys doing?

0:19.0

Good.

0:20.0

Welcome guys.

0:21.0

Thanks for having us.

0:22.0

Thank you for having us.

0:23.0

So I'm sure most of you know who these amazing people are. But for those of you who don't,

0:27.7

once upon a time there was a, we could just call it kind of a sex cult started in upstate New

0:33.6

York by a man named Keith Reneary and the cult was called Nexium and Sarah and Nippy are

0:41.2

survivors of that cult and you can see all about their story on a currently released multi-series

0:50.5

nine hour epic documentary on HBO called The Vow. Marguine I just finished the vow this

0:56.6

week. You can also hear about Sarah's story specifically in her book called Scarred which

1:04.2

I have begun to read but I have a long way to go but I'm super excited to read this book.

1:08.9

Make sure and read this book and also you can follow Sarah and Nippy on an amazing podcast

1:17.0

that they're in their second season of called a little bit culty and so we when we learned

1:23.6

about Sarah and Nippy and all the amazing things they did and do and have done and honestly

1:29.5

they along with just a few other people are responsible for bringing down Keith Reneary

1:35.0

and his cult and he is now in federal prison for like 120 and 150 years. We'll talk about

1:41.1

that. They were key figures in bringing this cult down a lot like Lyraemony and Mike Rinder

1:47.1

were for Scientology and others so these are in my world these guys are heroes and we brought

1:54.9

them to thrive this weekend to help keynote now this this episode is going to air after

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