Hey everyone welcome back to the screenwriting life. I'm Meg Lafour.

And I'm Lorian McKenna and today we are thrilled to be welcoming writing partners John Hobberg and

Kat Lickle to discuss Disney and Pixar's elemental as well as their impressive career as TV

comedy writers and showrunners.

Kat and John's writing partnership spans over two decades

working on shows like Gallivant,

my name is Earl, Better Off Ted, and Blackish.

They're joining us today to talk about their career in TV, discuss the dynamics of working in a writing partnership, and of course their work on elemental.

But first, Captain John have agreed because I've made them, join our first segment, which is Adventures in Screenwriting, or what do we do this week? So,

Lauren, you go first. What did you do this week? I have no idea. But what I'm working on is trying to notice the expectations I set on myself and like in terms of my goals or relationships or anything really all the things I have to do and notice it without judgment so that I can

understand what my process is.

So it usually I'll be like, oh my God, I ran at a time,

fill in, I'm X failure, and then it bottoms me out.

And then the next day I already feel like I'm in a deficit but instead I'm trying to

working on noticing. Okay, I didn't plan that very effectively. Like yesterday I got off an airplane

from the Midwest, I was tired, my kid, take my kid to the doctor, and then I realized, oh, she was going to

wear a concert, she's going to need a new outfit and she tween freaked out all over the mall.

So by the time I got home at five o'clock I was like I'm not going to write for two hours today

that's not happening I'm tween exhausted so sort of, why did I think I could do that?

Was I setting myself up for failure on purpose

and then just sort of letting it go?

Okay, what did I learn?

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