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#150: Comparative Case Analysis in Germany - The Staircase

Real Crime Profile

Real Crime Profile / Wondery

True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.210.5K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2018

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

The Real Crime Profile Team (Laura Richards, Jim Clemente and Lisa Zambetti), discuss Liz Ratcliffe's death in Germany and Michael Peterson's behavior. Laura and Jim draw on the behavioral analysis and case experience from other criminal cases and share their insight.

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#TheStairCase


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0:00.0

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0:11.0

I expect you to be found guilty of killing his wife.

0:18.0

And I think after the autopsy tomorrow, people will have issues, I think, with the result of that as far as his involvement with the death of the Lisbon Ratlin.

0:30.0

The gamey chills, it was just incredible that the two of these could be so similar.

0:51.0

We looked at Kathleen Peterson and looked at Lisbon Ratlin. They could pass for sisters.

0:55.0

Miss Ratlin left Michael Peterson in charge of her children, as well as in charge of all of her personal property in the event that she died, which of course did happen.

1:04.0

Her death, it's not as a result of a fall down the stairs. And my conclusion, and my opinion, is that she was also beaten.

1:11.0

Lightning does it strike in the same place twice. It just simply doesn't happen.

1:16.0

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiled former New York City prosecutor, writer, producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today is...

1:25.0

Laura Richett's former criminal behavior analyst, New Scotland Yard and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.

1:32.0

And I'm Lisa Z. I am the casting director for Criminal Minds. CBS's Criminal Minds, where Jim Clemente is my colleague.

1:38.0

And we're right in the middle of shooting my episode, 1409. And it's called Broken Wing. And we have an amazing cast. Thank you Lisa.

1:47.0

Oh, you are so welcome. I can't wait. I can't wait to visit set too and see how it's all going with our director, Ayesha Tyler.

1:54.0

Yes, he's got some pleasure to work with. It's fantastic.

1:59.0

Jumping back into our conversation about Liz Ratliff and her death at the bottom of a staircase.

2:06.0

17 years before Kathleen, Michael Peterson's wife, would die also at the bottom of a staircase.

2:17.0

I don't like the coincidence of it. And I think there are too many different aspects of it that are eerily similar.

2:26.0

Yeah, the prosecutors agree with you. They don't think it's Eerie too. But can I ask you guys, what kind of a dumb murderer would do the same thing twice?

2:35.0

I mean, one who got away with it the first time.

2:38.0

And I've certainly seen that in cases. And I was going to talk about two different cases actually.

2:44.0

One where professionals said exactly as we heard, free to say on others, lightning doesn't strike twice. Well, I had a case where, in fact, the first part to it was dramatized in a show called UB dead.

3:00.0

And it was a Dr. Jamfakowski who was being stalked and his new partner, his fiance Debbie, who he was going to go on to marry.

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