Hey everybody, welcome to the Al Franken podcast.

I'm Al Franken.

And today we're going to talk on a light subject, nuclear weapons.

And our guest is Joe Serencioni, who happens to be the president of the Plow Shares Fund.

Now I worked with the Plow Shares Fund for a long time.

I was in the Senate, certainly.

They're a group that is trying to get us to spend less money, for example, on nuclear weapons and to have

reasonable disarmament talks with other nuclear powers. And they get their name from,

quote, in the book of Isaiah, which I read every night.

Okay, here it is.

And he shall judge among the nations and shall rebuke many people.

And they shall beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks.

Nation shall not lift sword upon nation.

Neither shall they learn war anymore.

So they had to choose between we're going to be the Plow Shares Fund or the Pruning Hooks Fund,

and I think they chose wisely. And they have been great leaders on this extremely important task.

So we're going to discuss that with Joe. We may get into, I'm not sure representatives Omar and Talib not going to Israel.

These are the only two Muslim women who are members of Congress.

Ilhan Omar is actually my member of Congress.

I think, you know the story, President Trump urged

Netanyahu not to let them come in and it got very complicated.

Finally, they were going to let Talib in, Congresswoman Talib,

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