#1494 Ten Things About John Jay

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Society & Culture, History

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🗓️ 10 May 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson discuss John Jay, the American statesman, patriot, diplomat, Founding Father, abolitionist, and signatory of the Treaty of Paris in 1783. Jay was a proponent of strong, centralized government, which at times put him at odds with Thomas Jefferson. Jay worked to ratify the United States Constitution in New York in 1788 and was a co-author of The Federalist Papers along with Alexander Hamilton and James Madison.

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0:00.0	Good day, Thomas Jefferson. Our podcast listeners, as always, thank you so much for listening. And as
0:06.2	always, thank you so much for supporting the show. We appreciate it very, very much. And if you'd
0:13.1	like to support the show, go to Jeffersonhour.com, click on donate. There's a bunch of different
0:19.6	options for you to do so. And again, we really appreciate it. And before we talk about this week's
0:26.2	show, which, by the way, is another 10 things episode. This week's subject is John Jay. But before
0:32.4	we go to that, I mentioned this at the end of the show, but I want to congratulate you again,
0:38.0	Clay, on your stellar performance in the Ken Burns documentary on Ben Franklin. I really enjoyed
0:45.2	it. And I thought you added so much. As did our good friend, Joe Ellis. I was so glad to see Joe
0:51.5	here. He and I first met in Ken Burns studio in Walpole, New Hampshire, when Burns was working
0:57.9	on his 1998 documentary on Thomas Jefferson. And we've been friends ever since. But really, the
1:04.0	friendship got its big boost of electricity during the pandemic when Joe became one of our favorite
1:11.4	correspondents. And still is, by the way. And I was so glad to see him. You know, when you sit for
1:16.4	an interview with Ken Burns, you don't know who else is in it. And you don't know whether you're
1:19.9	going to wind up on the cutting room floor or be in the film at any point. And how he was going
1:24.1	to quote you and so on. And so I was thrilled to be in it. And even more thrilled to see
1:29.5	one of the people I respect most in American history, Joe Ellis, as a central figure, particularly
1:36.4	in the second episode. There was one story that you talked about telling that you said,
1:43.1	it's got to be in the show. It wasn't. It's this letter that Adams wrote about Franklin. And
1:48.4	Adams didn't like Franklin very much. But he said that he was known to everyone to aristocrats and
1:53.7	common people to to valetish bombers and scullions from kitchens and that everyone who knew him,
2:00.8	that he was more famous than in Europe than livenits or Newton and that everyone who knew him from
2:06.5	the highest in society to the very lowest believe that he was going to bring about a new golden age.
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