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#1491 American Character

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Society & Culture, History

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

David Swenson speaks with President Jefferson about the American character, both as citizens and as a nation. This program originally aired in May of 2017.

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0:00.0

Good day citizens. Good day podcast listeners for the Thomas Jefferson hour. And before we begin

0:06.0

this week, I want to thank our 1776 club supporters for choosing to support the Thomas Jefferson

0:13.2

hour. We can't tell you enough how much we appreciate that support. And always like to point out

0:19.4

that the show really is listener supported. So thanks much. And this week, President Jefferson

0:26.4

talks about American character. This was your theme. So what brought you to this? What brought

0:33.9

me to it is the way society has changed the viewpoint of government. I think it's always good to

0:41.3

stand back once in a while. For me, particularly, I love doing the research. I love finding these

0:47.8

things that Washington said and Adam said and Jefferson said. And I was left after reading about

0:55.6

with the thought that they were kind of surprised by what happened to American character after

1:03.0

the Revolutionary War ended and government began to form. Jefferson in the show talks about

1:12.7

envisioned something more like Thomas Moore's utopia. And it didn't turn out that way. And I was

1:18.3

surprised that Mr. Jefferson was not surprised. Well, there are periods when we're closer.

1:25.5

So after World War II, until about 1970, there was this period of sort of growth in higher ed,

1:34.6

growth in public education, civil rights movements, the women's movement, recognition for American

1:43.4

Indians. There was a sense that we were kind of finishing the last things that had been lingering,

1:51.1

that hadn't been done yet, and that higher ed and public ed were going to be the central

1:57.1

institutions that led to this sort of new completion of the American Revolutionary Agenda

2:04.5

and the Enlightenment. And then it kind of stalled out, and I mean no personal disrespect,

2:09.8

but the Reagan Revolution is a pivotal moment. The country sort of said, well, maybe we've

2:17.0

maybe too much, maybe we pull back here, maybe there's been the 60s were too volatile, too crazy,

2:23.9

too much social change, too much abrupt adjustment of our systems, too much judicial activism,

2:29.5

whatever it was. And since 1980, the country has been kind of moving back away from that period.

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