This is the Untold Italy travel podcast and you're listening to episode number 149.

Ciao at all and benvenuti to Untold Italy, the travel podcast where you go to the towns and villages,

mountains and lakes, hills and coastlines

of Bella Italia.

Each week your host, Katie Clark, takes you on a journey in search of magical landscapes,

history, culture, wine, gelato, and of course, a whole lot of pasta.

If you're dreaming of Italy and planning future adventures there,

you've come to the right place.

Who loves pasta?

Yes, we all do, especially me and any type you care to mention.

Hello, chow everyone and welcome to a special episode of Untold Italy devoted to pasta

and the women who are preserving its traditions throughout Italy.

Today I'm chatting with Vicki Benison, the founder of the

incredibly successful YouTube and other channels, known as Pastor Grannies, that have over

2 million subscribers. So incredible. We're chatting about the importance of pasta to Italian culture

and her second book dedicated to the fresh pasta recipes of the pasta grannies.

Vicky's first book won a James Beard Award, which is the equivalent of the food Oscars in America

for Best Single Subject in 2019. And this next book is destined to do the same. So let's jump in and

chat with Vicki about the heartwarming pasta recipes

and the women who make them.

Beveny to Vicky. Welcome to Vicky. Welcome to the Untold Ishali podcast.

Thank you very much indeed for inviting me. I'm so excited. But before we get started, Vicky,

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