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and please enjoy the show. Hi, this is John. Before we begin this episode, I just wanted to give you a

few program notes. First, I wanted to introduce you to Andrew Ainsworth. Andrew is a close personal

friend and a long time Mormon Stories listener and he'll be conducting the interview today. He's

an attorney by trade and he's very well prepared for this interview and I think you'll see that

from the get-go. I also want to introduce you to Damon Smith. Damon has written a fantastic

and interesting book. He's an anthropologist by trade and he's worked inside church headquarters.

So if you've ever wanted to know a little bit more about post manifesto polygamy, the polygamy

that happened after the church said it was going to stop polygamy, if you ever wanted to understand

more about the church's changing identity in the 1900s, how we went from a polygamous sort of

faction into a mainstream church. If you ever wanted to understand about correlation in the church

and how correlated and systematized our manuals are today, maybe even a bit dull and dry at times,

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