1488: The Mormon Influences on Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Part 2
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.6 • 5.2K Ratings
🗓️ 5 October 2021
⏱️ 230 minutes
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Summary
As Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow face indictments and/or allegations for multiple murders (e.g., Chad's wife Tammy, Lori's husband Charles, Lori's brother Alex, Lori's children JJ and Tylee) - many believing LDS church members (i.e. "Mormons") have taken issue with the suggestion that Mormon beliefs played any role in these murders.
Today we conclude our 2-part series exploring the Mormon influences on Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow. Our guests for today are Lauren and John Matthias - co-hosts of the Hidden True Crime podcast. I am also super happy to be joined today by my dear, brilliant friend Mindy Caldwell, who has followed the Daybell/Vallow case very closely over the past few years.
Please join us with your questions and comments.
Hidden: A True Crime Podcast explores the hidden motives behind unimaginable crimes, while examining our deepest fears along the way. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors, both good and bad, in order to understand the world and ourselves. Pull up a chair at our dinner table as the husband and wife team of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, a journalist, delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes. What are you hiding? What are you hiding from? What remains hidden?
Show Notes:
- The Second Comforter: Conversing with the Lord Through the Veil by Denver Snuffer
- A Greater Tomorrow: My Journey Beyond the Veil by Julie Rowe
- Lauren's full interview with "Girl on Fire"
- Visions of Glory: One Man's Astonishing Account of the Last Days by John Pontius
- Mormon Stories' interview with Matt Harris about the rise of the Mormon right-wing
- Early Mormonism and the Magic World View by D. Michael Quinn
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I am your host John |
| 0:06.8 | Delin. It is October 1st, 2021 and I am so thrilled to be joined in my studio again just |
| 0:13.7 | like last week by my dear friend Mindy Caldwell. Hey Mindy. Hi John. Welcome back. Thank you. |
| 0:19.9 | Glad to be back. So good to have you. Thank you. So fun to be here. For those of you who weren't |
| 0:24.8 | able to join us last week, we did a full hour or no, three hours on the Mormon influence on Chad |
| 0:33.4 | and Laurie Debel. Again, for those of you who haven't been following this story in the news, |
| 0:39.3 | there is a whole very significant global news story about the murder of several people, |
| 0:45.5 | several adults and children that will be providing a quick overview about today, but it involves |
| 0:51.2 | two important suspects, Ed Debel and Laurie Valah, both of whom were active in believing members |
| 0:57.2 | of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or the Mormon Church. And the whole purpose of |
| 1:01.6 | this two or potentially three-part series is to address the question of whether or not there were |
| 1:08.6 | were these just murders that would have happened anywhere under any cultural or religious context, |
| 1:14.0 | or is it possible that beliefs and or doctrines and or practices and or cultural dynamics within |
| 1:22.2 | the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or the Mormon Church were important factors |
| 1:27.0 | in the events that lead up to these murders. And we are doing part two of this series today, |
| 1:34.5 | and we are so thrilled to have with us Dr. John and Lauren from Hidden a True Crime podcast. They |
| 1:42.8 | are joining us again, they're back, and they have an amazing YouTube channel, and they're really |
| 1:48.5 | deep into this this story, and we're just so thrilled to have them back to help tell the rest |
| 1:54.7 | of the story. Lauren, why don't we begin with you? Welcome back to Mormon Stories podcast, Lauren, |
| 1:59.5 | and why don't you just tell us a little bit about yourself again for those who are joining us for the |
| 2:04.0 | first time. Thank you, John. Yeah, my name is Lauren, as you said, and I used to be a TV reporter for |
| 2:10.3 | 10 years. I worked with ABC, NBC, and Fox, local affiliates in Salt Lake City and East Idaho and |
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