Thanks for listening to The Restis Politics. Sign up to the Restis Politics Plus. To enjoy ad-free listening,

receive a weekly newsletter, join our members' chat room and gain early access to live show tickets.

Just go to therestispolities.com. That's therestispolitics.com.

Welcome to the Restis Politics leading with me, Alistair Campbell. leading with me, Alice Campbell.

And with me, Rory Stewart. And today, a real treat for us, at least as far as I'm concerned,

we've got Jeremy Hunt. Now, Jeremy Hunt is very, very unusual in being probably the most

senior remaining conservative member of parliament. He was

the Chancellor of the Exchequer, he was the Foreign Secretary, he was the Health Secretary,

he was the Cultural Media and Sports Secretary under David Cameron, Theresa May, Liss Trust,

and Rishi Sunak. So he served under four different prime ministers in government.

He ran for the leadership. I declare an interest here. I supported Jeremy when he ran for

leadership against Boris Johnson. Before he entered politics, which is now 20 years ago, he was a

businessman. Serial entrepreneur makes jokes about himself failing to sell marmalade in Japan, I think.

Maybe perhaps he can tell us a little bit about that. But ultimately, built and sold a very

successful company and has remained when almost all the rest of us have dropped away,

which is another thing to investigate when it comes

to Jeremy. So many things to talk about. Thank you for joining us today. We tend to start, Jeremy,

with the very start. So you came from a military background. Your dad was very high up in the Navy.

And I just wonder whether that was ever a route that tempted you. I think if there'd been a war, I would have definitely joined the Royal Navy because I would have taken the view. That's where the action is. And by the way, thank you for saying it's a treat, Rory. I'm a bit worried there may not be a treat for Alistair because of what I'm about to say, what I'm about to say, which is that

when I was at university in the 1980s, Margaret Thatcher was at her heyday, and I was a card-carrying

Thatcherate. And I thought the action is in Westminster. So I, that was a moment I resolved to go into

politics. You didn't fancy the

...