147: High-Speed Treatment of PTSD?

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

David Burns, MD

Clinical, Therapy, Anxiety, Psychotherapy, Depression, Health & Fitness, Cognitive, Mentalhealth, Mental Health, Behavior, Education, Self-improvement, Psychology, Relationships, Addiction, Happiness, Personalgrowth

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🗓️ 1 July 2019

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Is it REALLY Possible? And Can the Effects Last?

Rhonda and David interview Garry, a veteran who David treated for PTSD several years ago at a trauma workshop in Michigan. Garry describes how a repressed horrific memory from his childhood suddenly and forcefully re-emerged when he smelled some Queen Anne’s Lace that were in blossom. He suddenly remembered how a school bus he was riding home on hit a horse with a boy, Tommy, who was riding bareback, when the horse suddenly lurched in front of the bus. Tommy was Gary’s classmate.

The bus driver said, “Don’t look!” But Garry watched as his friend, who was trapped under the dead horse, “bled out” and died.

Once this totally forgotten memory re-emerged decades later, roughly 18 months prior to Garry’s session with David, it constantly intruded into Garry’s every interaction for the next year and a half. Garry says,

“I was seeing Tommy all the time, and having symptoms of anxiety, intrusive memory and dissociation experiences. I would often see the image of Tommy lying on the pavement superimposed over conversations I was happened with people in an intimate way. It was quite disturbing and anxiety provoking.”

Garry tearfully describes what he experienced during his TEAM-CBT session with David, including his dissociation at one point during the session, and the profound changes he experienced by the end of the session.

Can severe PTSD be treated in a single therapy session? Did Garry really improve? Were the changes real? Did they last? And how did the therapy work?

You’ll find out when you listen to this amazing and inspiring interview! We are incredibly indebted to Garry for his courage and openness to share this experience with all of you!

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques to change the way you feel.
0:16.3	I am your host, Rhonda Borovsky, and joining me here in the Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns.
0:22.6	Dr. David Burns is a pioneer in the development of cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new team therapy.
0:29.6	He is the author of Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States and has been translated into over 30 languages. David is currently an
0:39.3	emeritus adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine.
0:44.8	Welcome everyone to episode 147. Hello David. Hello, Rhonda. Good to see you as always. Here we are again in the Murayata Studios. Yes,
0:56.7	and as a part of our recent series, some follow-ups on people that I've worked with alone or with a co-therapist,
1:07.8	we have Gary, who joined us today from all the way from Michigan, and great to see
1:15.1	you, Gary. Thank you, David. It's nice to be here. I had the great good fortune of working
1:23.6	with you, Gary, at an intensive, you remind, no, not, no, it was a two-day workshop.
1:31.2	In Michigan, it'll be three years ago this fall. Yes. And we did some work. It was my trauma
1:40.8	workshop, so I was looking for someone who had experienced trauma.
1:46.7	And although you're a war vet, you did want to work on a traumatic event
1:53.3	that actually went all the way back to your childhood.
1:57.1	And it was a very heartwarming and dramatic experience.
2:03.6	And we can reflect back on that a little bit and then also see how you're doing now.
2:10.6	Because one of the themes we've been pursuing with these follow-up sessions is that it's something I have to address that's been exciting to
2:22.8	some people and disturbing to some people, but with the new team therapy, we're often, I'm often
2:29.5	seeing pretty much a complete elimination of symptoms with people I work with within a single session,
2:37.7	an hour and a half session or maybe a two-hour session, see a really dramatic reduction or
2:43.7	elimination of symptoms.
2:45.9	And this is just so different from the way people think about therapy.
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