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You Are Not Broken

147. Author Interview - Dr. Van Anders - The Heteronormativity Theory of Low Sexual Desire

You Are Not Broken

Kelly Casperson, MD

Medicine, Health & Fitness

5743 Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Desire is Shaped by our Lived Experiences – The Heteronormative Theory Paper Dr. Sari van Anders is the Canada 150 Research Chair in Social Neuroendocrinology, Sexuality, and Gender/Sex, and Professor of Psychology, Gender Studies, and Neuroscience, at Queen's University. Dr. van Anders has published over 80 papers with research that sets out new ways to conceptualize, understand, and map gender/sex, sexual diversity, and sexuality, and also provides unique tools and theories for feminist and queer bioscience, especially within social neuroendocrinology and studies of testosterone. Can we talk about Gendered behavior for a fast minute – a lot of people – majority people – might not know or believe that they are “socially gendered” – she explains this to us. How does being gendered as a female affect our desire? how some aspects of sexuality widely assumed to be hormonal, might actually be better understood with or alongside a sociocultural lens. Okay – on to the mind blowing paper on “the heteronormativity theory of low sexual desire in women partnered with men” – Archives of Sexual behavior 2021. - Why did you write this? - You propose the heteronormativity theory of low sexual desire in women partnered with men, arguing that heteronormative gender inequities are contributing factors. - Four Hypothesis o Inequitable divisions of household labor Women have less free time o Blurring of partner and mother roles – its not that mothers aren’t sexual – it is that the relationship between mothers and those they mother is not a sexual one. Nurturant experiences decrease testosterone and increase peptides like oxytocin and vasopressin. Thinking sexual thoughts can change testosterone levels How Cortisol affects our sexual response o Objectification of women Proximity to the norm matters for their desire Women’s focus on appearance and being sexy instead of sexual Ignorance about the vulva and clitoris negatively impacts desire in women partnered with men o Gender norms surrounding sexual initiation. Discomfort initiating sex contributes to low desire. If women have to say yes everytime a man wants sex – this contributes to low desire.  “women’s sexual pleasure within heteronormative framings is fraught.” Women’s duty for sex or inability to say no. - What do we do now that we know this? - Orgasm coercion is her future research The Heteronormativity Theory of Low Sexual Desire in Women Partnered with Men https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-021-02100-x https://www.queensu.ca/psychology/van-anders-lab/ March’s Sponsor is Tabu – to prioritize your sexual wellness www.heytabu.com CODE: YANB for 15% off your kit This Podcast is not approved for credit by CMEfy, however, you may reflect on how this Podcast applies to your day-to-day and engage to earn AMA PRA Category 1 Credit(s)™ via point-of-care learning activities here: https://earnc.me/vKccS5 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kj-casperson/message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to You Are Not Broken, the only podcast that combines science, medicine, and psychology, to re-educate your brain and help you live your best-to-love life.

0:15.5

And I'm your host, Ford Certified Female Urologist, Dr. Casperson.

0:26.1

Thank you. board certified female urologist, Dr. Casperson. All right, people, I'm so excited today.

0:28.3

I have researcher, Sari Van Anders, PhD, with me today, and she is a research chair in Canada.

0:36.2

We're going to have to talk about all the amazing sex researchers being

0:38.8

in Canada and why they left America, because I think that in and of itself is fascinating.

0:42.7

But you've published over 80 papers dealing with gender and sex and sexual diversity and

0:48.2

talk a whole new lens of a way to look at sexuality is through the feminist and queer

0:53.1

bioscience, which is

0:54.3

absolutely fascinating and nobody knows enough about. So thank you so much for agreeing to talk to me

0:59.3

today. Well, thanks for having me. I think I posted a picture of this paper, and the paper we're talking

1:05.0

about today is the heteronormativity theory of low sexual desire in women partnered with men.

1:10.3

So the paper. I posted a

1:12.1

picture of it. And then I think like your neighbor said like our kids are in the same class and

1:17.7

do you want me to introduce you? I think that's how it happened. Yeah. It's a funny coincidence.

1:21.8

And she said, people are talking about this. I have to connect you with this person I know. So and

1:26.7

there we are. I don't like I don't know I know. So, and there, here we are.

1:28.1

I don't, like, I don't know in the realm of the world if, like, people are screaming from the

1:32.5

rooftops of this paper, but like, I read a decent amount of academic texts about sexuality,

1:37.2

because this is my gig, it's what I do. And I'm like, this is huge. This needs to be like

1:41.7

in the Wall Street Journal or something. Well, thank you. I don't know if people are screaming about it, but definitely a lot of people,

1:47.8

especially a lot of women, are really interested in what this is saying.

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