If you want them to get out, once they do it, grab a tracement tree drawer and go ahead and reinforce it.

And it really helps with not falling into the trap of not reinforcing a dog because that happens so often.

They end up not reinforcing very fast.

Oh, yeah, my dog knows it now.

And I tell them, I say, even if you think your dog knows it, you probably should go ahead and still reinforce it.

And it's getting a half of reinforcing things that you really want to stick.

Hey there, fellow training nerds. You're listening to Drinking from the Toilet, and I'm your host, Hannah Brandigan, teacher, trainer, podcaster, and author of the book, Awesome Obedience, and its companion, awesome obedience, the field guide, both which you can pick up right now from clickertraining.com.

We're doing something a little different this week and trying out this idea that I've had

for a while and finally got around to acting on.

And the idea was to do a pet dog trainers roundtable.

And so we've got a couple of pet dog trainers, professional trainers who work with the pet

dog owners, right, in their homes

and in classes and to kind of jam on a couple of different topics and get different angles

on it. I love hearing conversations from different perspectives because I always learn something new.

And so I've got some really great trainers, Kiki Yablon, Giovanni Alcade, and Taylor Barconi.

All three of these ladies have been guests on the podcast previously, but never all at once together.

We conversed about topics from what's the first behavior you teach a new client, to what kind of

language do you use to talk about important training concepts, to how do you handle unrealistic

expectations and a lot of cool side quests along the way.

But before you listen to that, I need to make sure to send a shout out to some awesome

folks for supporting this podcast on Patreon. So thank you to ABC, Lisa B, Nancy L, Julie D,

and Laura T. You all are amazing. And I love you. If you'd like to support the podcast,

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