All right I'm here today with Timothy Gordon and he's the author of the book

Catholic Republic why America will perish without Rome. Welcome Timothy.

Thank you so much, Dr. Marshall.

So you're saying that there's actually a crypto virtue ethic or a crypto natural law from

Aquinas that's seeping in to what makes America great.

Without a doubt, yeah, without a doubt, and I hope to at least in a cursory way demonstrate it here today.

Because I mean what people talk about is the sort of have half

see, half half Protestants and Enlightenment

founding of America, of course. This is the story being pitched

basically from middle school civics on and there's there's a basis for it right

it's not it's not like a total lie. There's a basis for it, but it turns that

the crypto Catholicism under, not undermines, really informs secretly though both the

Enlightenment and the reformation at least what the American founders and

framers took so you have the declaration, the Constitution,

and then even the cultural principles

that the founders wanted are absolutely,

monstrably Catholic.

And the more I looked into it,

the more I was convinced.

Because like you're insinuating Dr. Marshall, people often say this is great

you're an American Catholic you guys aren't aren't being tart and feathered anymore, right?

It's not like quite like gangs in New York anymore where Bill the Butcher is, you know, trying to keep us absolutely out.

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