I have a quick but important ask. As you're probably aware, Green Dreamer is an independent

podcast and we don't take on corporate advertisers to fund our work because we don't want those

considerations to influence our curiosities or our abilities to question whatever it is that we want to question.

So if you value and believe in our work, this is our call out.

We need your direct support in order to continue this podcast.

And you can help us out so, so much through a paid substack subscription to my newsletter at

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That's what our conversation with the government has been about and our conversation or level of support that you're able to share with us?

That's what our conversation with the government has been about,

and our conversation with the community is, you know, let's take back organic.

Let's have organic mean organic.

And let's have a label that we can trust.

How is our current national organic program misleading us as consumers and allowing certified organic products to fall short of what organic actually means?

What are the problems with hydroponics and why shouldn't they be allowed to be considered

organic?

That's just the tip of the iceberg of what you'll hear today. Green Dreamer is

supported by our listener patrons and Buffy, which makes betting that's earth-friendly and cruelty-free.

Its newest comforters called The Breeze made 100% from eucalyptus fiber to regulate temperature

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