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That's what our conversation with the government has been about,

and our conversation with the community is, you know, let's take back organic.

Let's have organic mean organic.

And let's have a label that we can trust.

How is our current national organic program misleading us as consumers and allowing certified

organic products to fall short of what organic actually means?

What are the problems with hydroponics and why shouldn't they be allowed to be considered

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