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141: The Second Hearing: The Rats are Leaving the Ship

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🗓️ 15 June 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Host Reed Galen is joined by Lincoln Project Senior Advisor Trygve Olson to discuss the revelations of the first two public hearings from the House Select Committee on January 6, what those revelations mean and will continue to mean for the Republican candidates who have hitched their wagon to “the big lie”, and what does the ever growing divide between Trump and MAGA mean for the future of the GOP. Plus, what do the public J6 hearings mean for the pro-democracy coalition in regards to the 2022 midterm elections?

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. Before we get started, I just want to encourage everyone here. Watch the select

0:05.8

committee on January 6th hearings. I think it is an important historical record of one of the

0:12.0

worst days in our country's history. And I think it's important that you are able to see for yourselves

0:17.2

just what happened on that day. Who was responsible and that you can share that information with

0:22.7

your friends and your family and your colleagues when they say none of it matters. Every bit of it

0:28.0

matters. I hope you'll tune in. I hope you'll find all of our content. Ask us questions. And now on

0:34.1

with the show.

0:42.8

Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Ray Galen. Today, I'm once again joined by

0:49.2

Trigview's Senior Advisor to the Lincoln Project and President of Viking Strategies, a DC-based

0:54.8

Public Affairs and Political Consulting for Trigview. Welcome back. Thanks, Reid. It's good to be on.

1:00.5

So, man, we are recording this on the afternoon of June 13th, just a few minutes actually after

1:05.8

the second public hearing from the House Select Committee on January 6th has finished its work for

1:10.5

the day. And so I want to get some of your reactions to what you saw and what the different

1:16.4

sort of threads mean for all this. So let's get into it a little bit. So last week, they did it in

1:22.5

prime time. This week, they did it at 10 o'clock in the morning. Bill Steppian, the campaign

1:27.5

manager for Donald Trump was supposed to appear had a family emergency at the last second. A lot of

1:32.2

people making jokes turns out his wife is having a baby. They still had him on tape. But the one

1:37.6

thing I recognized, Trigview, is that there's really two kinds of people here. They're the people who

1:43.2

are afraid of talking to federal investigators, whether or not that's congressional or the justice

1:48.2

department. And they're taking the fifth. And then there's just about everybody else from the

1:53.9

aforementioned Bill Steppian, Jason Miller, Jared and Ivanka, who all appear to be wanting to

2:00.4

tell some version as close to the truth as they can get, because they obviously don't want to be

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