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Wondery UK. That's audible.com slash Wondery UK. Welcome to Kitaku Split Screen, the only podcast that lets you hit the level cap with Zero Grind.

It's August 16th, 2018, and we've got a bunch of stuff to talk through this week.

First, Jason and I talk a bit about dead cells, which he's been playing on my recommendation, before getting into a deeper conversation about video game

grind and the various ways video games incentivize us to keep playing. Are we really just

addicted to a bunch of glossy skinner boxes, or is there more to it? There's more to it.

Then Jason has a chat with former orcane head Rafael Colantonio to talk about the process of

designing prey as well as a bunch of other interesting stuff. We close out with some off-topic talk of

TV shows, books, and a very groovy music pick. Stick around.

Hello and welcome back, everyone.

It has been another exciting week with a lot more video game stuff to discuss.

My name is Kirk Hamilton.

I am editor at large at kataku.com, and I am joined as ever by Katakku News Editor, Jason Schreier.

Hello, Jason.

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