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to this interview with Mike McDermott of FreshBooks.

The best part about starting the business to me was not knowing. It says

as adventure, this completely unclear and uncertain way of how you get from

point A to point B. And one of those lessons is I just used to run myself into

the ground all the time. You are going to spend more time with the people you work

with than you will with your family. I think the place where I got it wrong and

a number of times is the biggest battle is between your ears. Good luck.

So if you want to introduce yourself, give us your name, your location, your age,

and then tell us a little bit about your company, then we'll reel it back to the

beginning and how you got here. My name is Mike McDermott. I'm the co-founder and

CEO of FreshBooks. I'm based in Toronto. My age presently, I believe is 42, but

I rarely remember. It might be 41. Who knows? FreshBooks is ridiculously easy to

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