Welcome everybody to We Have Ways of Making You Two with me James Holland,

Ali is busy making finishing touches to his latest Sherman model.

But I am joined today by Olivia Smith.

Olivia, welcome. Thank you for coming on board.

Thank you.

And you are your young historian. I think this is exciting.

I think it was another compliment. Thank you.

Yeah, I would say so. A inspiring young historian.

A sparring young historian, but you have worked with the Commonwealth War Grace Commission.

Yes, yes, I've done this.

I'd say I'm at the very beginning of my career right now.

The reason we've got you on is because you have a grandmother who is born and brought up in Nazi Germany.

And you've taught her at a great length.

Yes.

So now she was brought up, am I right in saying near Hamburg? Is that correct?

Yes, Hamburg, and I believe it's called Lamba.

Yes.

So after she was born in 1935, so for her, she always says she was blissfully ignorant to be a child during Nazi Germany.

But lots of it she was very aware of.

And both of her parents were in the hospitality business.

Her father was in the service and through that that led them to become the Stuart and Stuynes at the Hamburg Polo Club.

This was like a really renowned... That's amazing.

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