This is Jockel Podcast number 140 with Echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink. Good evening, echo. Good evening.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you.

If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you but make allowance for their doubting too.

If you can wait and not be tired by waiting or being lied about, don't deal in lies or being hated, don't give way to hating.

And yet, don't look too good nor talk too wise.

If you can dream and not make dreams your master.

If you can think and not make thoughts your aim.

If you can meet triumph and disaster and treat those two imposter just the same.

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken twisted by naves to make a trap for fools or watch the things you gave your life to broken.

And stoop and build them up with worn out tools.

If you can make one heap of all your winnings and risk it on one turn of pitch and toss and lose and start again at your beginnings and never breathe a word about your loss.

If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew to serve your turn long after they are gone.

And so hold on when there is nothing in you. Accept the will which says to them, hold on.

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue or walk with kings nor lose the common touch.

If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you. If all men count with you but none too much.

If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds worth of distance run.

Yours is the earth and everything that's in it. And which is more you'll be a man my son.

And that of course is the classic poem which is called if and it's by Richard Kipling.

And of course we have covered some of his less I guess famous his less famous poems on this podcast we covered infantry columns.

Which a lot of people don't know the name infantry columns but that's the poem that talks about boots boots boots moving up and down.

Yeah that one. We read the young British soldier which is about Afghanistan we wrote we read a bit of Tommy.

And of course Kipling was an incredible writer and he talked a lot about war. Talked a lot about being a man and his own son his one son John was killed in World War one at the Battle of Luz and these are great poems.

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