#140 - Gerald Shulman, M.D., Ph.D.: A masterclass on insulin resistance—molecular mechanisms and clinical implications

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Peter Attia, MD

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Fitness

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🗓️ 7 December 2020

⏱️ 129 minutes

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Summary

Gerald Shulman is a Professor of Medicine, Cellular & Molecular Physiology, and the Director of the Diabetes Research Center at Yale. His pioneering work on the use of advanced technologies to analyze metabolic flux within cells has greatly contributed to the understanding of insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. In this episode, Gerald clarifies what insulin resistance means as it relates to the muscle and the liver, and the evolutionary reason for its existence. He goes into depth on mechanisms that lead to and resolve insulin resistance, like the role of diet, exercise, and pharmacological agents. As a bonus, Gerald concludes with insights into Metformin’s mechanism of action and its suitability as a longevity agent.

We discuss:

Gerald’s background and interest in metabolism and insulin resistance (4:30);
Insulin resistance as a root cause of chronic disease (8:30);
How Gerald uses NMR to see inside cells (12:00);
Defining and diagnosing insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes (19:15);
The role of lipids in insulin resistance (31:15);
Confirmation of glucose transport as the root problem in lipid-induced insulin resistance (40:15);
The role of exercise in protecting against insulin resistance and fatty liver (50:00);
Insulin resistance in the liver (1:07:00);
The evolutionary explanation for insulin resistance—an important tool for surviving starvation (1:17:15);
The critical role of gluconeogenesis, and how it’s regulated by insulin (1:22:30);
Inflammation and body fat as contributing factors to insulin resistance (1:32:15);
Treatment approaches for fatty liver and insulin resistance, and an exciting new pharmacological approach (1:41:15);
Metformin’s mechanism of action and its suitability as a longevity agent (1:58:15);
More.

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0:46.3	Now without further delay, here's today's episode.
0:49.0	I guess this week is Dr. Gerald Schulman.
0:53.3	Cherry's a professor of medicine in cellular and molecular physiology at Yale.
0:57.1	He's also the co-director of the Yale Diabetes Research Center.
1:01.0	In 2018, he received the Banting Medal for Scientific Achievement, arguably the most prestigious
1:07.3	award one can win in this field.
1:09.4	He's pioneered the use of magnetic resonance spectroscopy combined with mass spec to non-invasively
1:15.4	examine cellular glucose and fat metabolism.
1:17.9	Now you may ask, why does that matter?
1:20.3	And we get to that right at the outset of this interview.
1:23.4	If you want to understand insulin resistance, if you want to understand hyperinsulinemia,
1:28.8	type 2 diabetes, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, you have to understand the movement
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