140: Frank and Raphael | Part 1
Homo Sapiens
Christopher Sweeney
4.7 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 26 August 2021
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
This isn’t your usual Homo Sapiens episode, it’s a documentary really, a first hand account of the AIDS crisis in New York in the 80s, of art, adventure and a couple who have been through it all. Artist Frank Holliday and his partner of 22 years, Raphael, joined us to talk about working for Andy Warhol, hanging out with Jean-Michel Basquiat, Keith Haring, Studio 54 and how AIDS impacted the queer scene of the city. All with a huge twist in the tale. Sit down, grab a cocktail and enjoy an incredible story from two wonderful people - Chris and Alan x
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| 0:00.0 | Imagine you, you in a nice comfy seat with your hands behind your head, taking in the views, |
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| 0:30.4 | So, oh my god. Oh, let's tell, let's tell the viewing millions. We just did a whole introduction |
| 0:37.6 | to our guests for this podcast and I wasn't, I hadn't pressed my button. He hadn't pressed record |
| 0:42.0 | and you know what? It was gold. Gold. It was radial gold. Listen, as you're not going to understand |
| 0:46.8 | it like I was funny but then I was sweet and then I was touching. I was hilarious then he was |
| 0:51.5 | insightful and now all you're going to get is this drivel. It is a fabulous episode and I kind of |
| 0:58.7 | unusual, a little off-piece as they say in skiing. This is such an exciting episode because it's |
| 1:04.7 | a big one. Because what is a sweet story? We're just doing every other now. See, I said it |
| 1:08.4 | wouldn't go well. We were great listeners. I know you believe it. So, what happened was there's |
| 1:14.3 | this bloke called Florent Morale who had a, his French obviously and who lived in New York, |
| 1:20.0 | has lived in New York forever, had a restaurant in a diner in the meatpacking district called Florent |
| 1:26.4 | when the meatpacking district was not the sort of swanky sort of, you know, sex in the city, |
| 1:30.7 | the area of New York that it is. Now it was actually a place where meat was packed and ladies and |
| 1:35.6 | gentlemen and those who don't define as either of the night would frequent their business and sell |
| 1:41.7 | their wares and so the restaurant was this kind of oasis in this sort of place where most New York |
| 1:47.6 | wouldn't go. Anyway, Florent became a legend partly because throughout the AIDS crisis he was HIV |
| 1:54.8 | positive and he used to put his, you know, his white cell character and everything up on the menu. |
| 2:00.4 | So extraordinary about that. Yes, and he was a big AIDS activist and anyway, |
| 2:05.1 | so Florent was an old friend of mine and at one point a few years ago I was going to play him |
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