Hello, you found the portal. I'm your host, Eric Weinstein, and I'm here in Manhattan with

artist London Si, a person I've been looking to meet for quite some time, and I just met him

yesterday for the first time in London. Welcome. Thank you. So I have been eyeing your artwork

for years on the internet. I've used it in talks, and you are one of the most important people

that we've had come on the portal, even though very few people will know who you are or what you've

been up to. Can you say a little bit about your background as a mathematical artist?

Oh, my background. So my background as an artist, well, I studied mathematics and undergrad,

and maybe I should start over. So actually, I went to college and you went to college.

Yes, I went to college. Yeah, I did. And I wanted to actually study French literature

and international relations. Okay. And my freshman year, I took the standard courses,

and I really delved into a 20th century French literature. And it was Duke.

This was at Tufts. Oh, Tufts, okay. So at Tufts, I took all these kind of liberal arts classes,

humanities classes, and I was actually disappointed. I had all these ideas about what I wanted to

accomplish in literature and what I would learn, and I would ultimately find some sort of meaning,

some understanding of the world we live in. And instead, I was frustrated, and I didn't seem to

be able to get answers to the questions I had. And to my surprise, I was enjoying calculus

much more than any of the classes I took. So what happened was that in my sophomore year,

I declared my math major. Okay. So you came out of the closet.

I came out of the closet. Yeah. There was also a proto-mathematician. Yes. And then,

and then I, well, of course, I grew up in an artistic household. And I would do some sort of artwork.

But once I discovered mathematics, I found that

that it was more artistic than anything that I had ever seen before. It's more creative,

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