Boom, here we go. What's up, Glenn? How are you man? Hey Joe, nice to meet you in person.

Good to come down here. Good to meet you.

Dude, you, uh, you're one of my favorite characters on that show.

It was always weird watching you.

For people don't know where to, life below zero.

It's this crazy show where people live, you know,

in this very rugged terrain and you, you are the most interesting life because you, when you would live up at the cabin, you would live by yourself. Just you, a very small room just hunting all your food and

hiking around. You didn't use any vehicles and you just kind of had a rifle and a frying pan and a pot and a place to sleep and you seem really happy up there.

Oh yeah, I'm having a good time. I just wanted to strip everything away that I could dispense with, you know.

I got the idea I wanted to go back to living like a hunter-gatherer.

Back in 97, I just got this idea.

I was actually living in a tent in the woods down in Vermont having such a good time I thought

where could I go with this what could I do with this kind of lifestyle and I decided to move to the

Brooks Range of Alaska. What was it like so you what made you go live in a tent in the first place?

I just always liked the outdoors. I just love nature and you know I was doing other things too but there was this one summer when I was in my 20s

when I found this really cool spot in the woods and I thought hey

I'll set up a teepee over there and I'll just hang out there this summer as much as I can.

And I just had a great time so I started thinking more about you know instead of just just hey how could you actually make a life living like this? You know get up every morning with

the animals around the sky the water. I started thinking about I started reading

anthropological stuff about hunter-gatherers that summer and I started

getting ideas and it took me seven years to make it to the Brooks Range and to get out to that lake that you've seen on TV and to actually start living that way.

It took me a few years just to organize my life enough to move up to Alaska and then once I got to Alaska I was kind of in Fairbanks for about four years

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