All right here we go first of all welcome James I really appreciate you having me on my pleasure and welcome again Chris

So this is essentially giving you an opportunity to refute some of the things that Chris has said about your film.

We should tell everybody that you, you're the producer of the game changers?

Yeah, there's one of two producers.

I know you also from, of course, from the ultimate fighter.

Yep.

You have C.

And Chris, this is your what, fourth appearance here?

Nothing like that? Fourth or fifth. Fourth or fifth. this is your what fourth appearance here?

Fourth or fifth.

The fourth or fifth. Did you get a chance to see what Chris had said?

Yeah, I've watched it.

You watched it.

I've made a bunch of notes there.

Excellent.

Let's start from the beginning. The beginning of the your

notes there.

The beginning of the show, the beginning of your film, you talked about the gladiators and all that stuff and the fact that you were shocked to find out the day they had eaten a vegetarian diet.

Yeah, I mean, you know, that's been misrepresented, right?

So even before the film came out, people are like, oh, there's this vegan film coming out, it's vegan propaganda, people were judging the film coming out, people were like, oh, there's this vegan coming out, it's vegan propaganda.

People were judging the film before they'd seen it, right?

And the vegan sort of community really pushed it,

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