Good Day Thomas Jefferson, Our Podcast listeners, and as always thank you for listening and we hope you are all safe and healthy and well cared for.

Indeed, this is an interesting program.

It's out of character this week.

You know, we've been talking over the past few weeks and again

soon with the great Joseph Ellis, an ongoing dialogue about the relationship between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

You know, some people say that the great divide is between Jefferson and Hamilton.

Not so. The great divide in American cultures between John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.

Both wanted a republic, but Adams had a somewhat more realistic view of human nature and so he wanted checks and balances, Mr Jefferson,

checks and balances in a way that

Jefferson did not and so that series of dialogues has been fascinating and for me

very enriching I know for you too yeah and if I might interject we do have an upcoming show where Joe Ellis

Has agreed to spend the hour talking about your new book sir which is coming out I think June 1st, right?

Yeah, so he and I have some slight disagreements

about maybe the main thesis of my book,

which is that we are no longer a republic unfortunately but we still can

practice certain small-hour Republican styles approaches, and that each individual can become a kind of

Jeffersonian and can thus help to reinvigorate the American Republic. I think

Joe's view is that horse left the barn a very very very long time ago.

So that's interesting, you know, but this show was about our listeners around the country who have sent in sometimes their voice, thoughts

and comments and in other cases sent in email and we tried to get as many different perspectives

of how people are coping as we possibly could

within the course of a single hour. Well we did pretty well though we got through

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