139: ‘How Many Fingers Should This Baby Have?’ With Special Guests Craig Federighi and John Siracusa

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

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🗓️ 14 December 2015

⏱️ 201 minutes

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Apple senior vice president of software engineering Craig Federighi joins the show for a wide-ranging half-hour discussion about Swift -- Apple's new programming language that just went open source. Next, John Siracusa returns to the show to follow up on Federighi's segment on Swift. Other topics include Apple's new Smart Battery Case for the iPhone 6/6S, and our mutual (and perhaps futile) desire to head into this week's premiere of *Star Wars: The Force Awakens* knowing as few spoilers as possible.

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0:00.0	I always end up seeking back to figure out what part I missed where the podcast started
0:06.2	and then I realize it just starts.
0:11.6	That is how it goes Craig.
0:15.0	So this is a great thrill for me to be speaking to you.
0:21.3	Craig Federigie, senior vice president of software engineering at what's the company?
0:29.8	Apple.
0:30.8	Apple.
0:31.8	Yes.
0:33.8	And we are talking on the occasion of the open sourcing of Swift which went live last
0:42.2	week.
0:43.2	What day was it last week?
0:44.2	It was last Thursday, wasn't it?
0:47.0	Yeah, it's been a huge, yeah.
0:50.4	It's been, it was incredibly exciting for us.
0:53.0	Yeah, so we're speaking, as we speak, it's about a week later.
0:55.8	So how do you think this first week of Swift as an open source project has gone?
1:00.8	Yeah, really, really well.
1:02.2	I mean, the level of activity on GitHub is off the charts.
1:07.6	I mean, we've had really high aspirations for Swift from the beginning, but at every step
1:12.8	it's been pretty amazing for us how much bigger it's gone than we could have ever hoped.
1:18.9	And I think already on GitHub we're a more active project than I think all the other
1:23.9	languages that are on GitHub, which is just incredible for first week.
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