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Mormon Stories Podcast

1389: Catching Up with John Larsen (2021)

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2021

⏱️ 245 minutes

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Summary

John Larsen is one of the most influential and well-respected figures within Modern progressive and post-Mormon communities. John (along with his ex-wife Zilpha) was the co-host of Mormon Expression podcast for several years, and he is an occasional host of Sunstone Podcast. He has appeared on Mormon Stories Podcast several times over the past decade.

In today's episode I bring John Larson back, and we discuss several topics, including:

-Divorce after a faith crisis.

-Raising children with mental illness after a faith crisis.

-Alcohol and drug use after a faith crisis.

-Non-monogamy/swinging after a faith crisis.

-The LDS Church's response to the COVID pandemic.

-The impact of the QAnon phenomenon within the United States, and within the LDS Church.

-How conservative politics within the U.S. are tearing apart some Utah wards and families.

-What it would take to bring John Larsen back as a podcaster.

-The need for kindness within both political and religious discourse, and how challenging this can be.

John Larsen is one of my favorite thinkers in modern Mormonism, and is a fantastic guest. you will not be disappointed with this episode.

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Some of the Mormon Expression episodes mention in this episode include:

-Episode 27: The Word of Wisdom for Dummies

-Episode 95a: Doctrine and Covenants 132 for Dummies Part 1

-Episode 95b: Doctrine and Covenants 132 for Dummies part 2

-Episode 275: How to Become an Ex-ex-Mormon

-Episode 276: How to build a transoceanic vessel

John's past Mormon Stories Podcast episode include:

-Episodes 186-187: "Mormon Stories Broadcasts Live with John Larsen and You!"

-Episode 312: Mormon Expression Interviews John Dehlin

-Episode 531: "John Larsen's Mormon Expression"

-Episode 1097: "Building Community after Mormonism: A Conversation with John Larsen"

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of Mormon Stories Podcast.

0:04.4

Hope you're having a great day.

0:06.2

Today it's a special day.

0:07.8

It's a special day for me.

0:10.0

We are having back to Mormon Stories Podcast, someone who I consider to be a legend.

0:16.5

Sometimes I like to think of the players in the Mormon Internet world and in the Mormon

0:22.2

history world in the Mormon activism world as kind of superheroes.

0:26.5

And I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, in an arrogant way, in an elitist way,

0:31.8

but it's freaking hard to play in this space.

0:35.8

In my opinion, in my experience, and we're having back to Mormon Stories Podcast, someone

0:41.9

who I think is a legend.

0:43.8

His name is John Larson.

0:45.2

Hello John Larson.

0:46.2

Hey John, I need to do it.

0:48.7

It's been a while.

0:49.7

It's been a while.

0:50.7

And for those who don't know, I'm just going to do a quick introduction because as impossible

0:55.7

as absurd as it is to think that I have listeners who don't know who John Larson is, I'm guessing

1:02.3

that most of you don't know who John Larson is because, as you know, John, there's this

1:07.6

kind of pipeline of listeners who come in and then go and it's healthy that they go.

1:13.2

But then I'm always having new people discover and a lot of my listeners aren't going to

1:18.1

know who you are.

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