Good Day Thomas Jefferson, Our podcast listeners, and welcome to this week's episode.

You've certainly heard our voices this week for the first time, in a long, long, long, long, long time,

you get to hear those of our listeners and we're really hoping

that this is going to be a regular I'd like to do it as a every week yeah I would

too because I think that it matters and you get to hear in

inflection so for example this week we had the gentleman who called the

the impeachment of of of Trump a kangaroo court and you could hear his passion

and it mattered the tone is as important as the

content and he got a chance to say what he thinks he disagrees with the way we've

been approaching this and I appreciated the last couple weeks so weeks though, we've done a fair job of trying to, you know, find some common ground.

Well, two things that every person should keep in mind about this, David.

Number one, this is a Republican

president being impeached. There will be more Democratic presidents coming and

we're going to get into similar crises in the future and so you have to try to erase your tribal partisanship and

allegiance when you think about these questions. That's the first thing. So

everyone should try to think of this as President X and the constitutional process of impeachment

very, very, very hard, but we should try to discipline ourselves.

And the second point I want to make is that in anything like this, all you have to do is to say what if Obama had done it

what if Bill Clinton had done it what if George W Bush had done it in other words reverse

the lens and try to see it not from your tribal

partisanship for your own party but to say what if Barack Obama had brought

Germany in to try to influence the election by bringing up dirt on his political opponents.

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