1371: The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City - Heather Gay and Dre Nord Pt. 3

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 19 December 2020

⏱️ 162 minutes

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Summary

Recently I was super fortunate to sit down with reality tv stars Heather Gay and Dre Nord - who are both currently appearing on BravoTV's "Real Housewives of Salt Lake City." In this three-part series, we focus on Heather and Dre's life experiences within the context of Mormonism (and Utah Mormonism).

Part 1 covers...

Heather and Dre's early years as devout Mormons.
Dre's marriage, divorce, and faith crisis as a Mormon in her early 20s. This includes how Dre navigated her life as a divorced single ex-Mormon Utah Mom without a college degree.
Heather's experiences at BYU and serving an LDS mission in France.
Heather's somewhat challenging efforts to find a faithful Mormon husband (Billy Gay).
Dre shares how she almost lost her mother to death by suicide, in part due to pressures of "perfectionism" that many Mormon women experience.
Heather shares some of the reactions she has received from members of the Mormon and ex-Mormon communities, as well as from the Utah LGBTQ community, regarding her participation in the show.

https://youtu.be/svHV0bQEHwA

Part 2 covers...

Heather's marriage to Billy Gay III, which culminated in Heather becoming Relief Society President ended in divorce.
How Heather and Dre met, and how they were able to build a successful, multi-million dollar business together (Beauty Lab Laser) as divorced Mormon single women in Utah.
Dre shares the tragic story of losing her brother to suicide last year, and how she and Heather created a 501c3 non-profit called "Don't Leave" to help "break the stigma around mental health."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtUYWOc_JOo&feature=youtu.be

Part 3 covers...

Heather's struggle to accept the end of her "Eternal Marriage," which included years of denial.
Heather's life as a divorced single Mom, which included experimentation with things she never considered trying as a devout Mormon (e.g. alcohol).
How Heather's perspective on Mormonism changed once she became dear friends with two wonderful gay Mormon men.
Heather and Dre discuss their opinions about how harmful the LDS Church's doctrine around LGBTQ members is.
Heather and Dre also discuss the ways in which the LDS Church's "Proclamation on the Famly" harms not only LGBTQ members, but also Mormon women/girls and men/boys as well.
Heather discusses her current struggle to reconcile her longstanding orthodox Mormon beliefs as they conflict with her developing beliefs about life.

This is a heartwarming, epic, and inspiring story of resilience. I was deeply moved by this vulnerability, wisdom, courage, and resilience of these inspiring women.

Please share any questions or comments you have for Heather and Dre below.

Transcript

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome back to part three of this epic Mormon stories podcast interview
0:06.5	with gay and drape with Heather. You can't rebrand other day. All right, what do you guys
0:12.4	introduce yourself as go ahead and do it? It's rather the trilogy now.
0:17.2	For Lord of the Rings. This is Heather Gay and Drey Nord, also known as two of the many stars
0:26.1	of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, broadcasted on Bravo TV. Currently, episode six has been released.
0:34.5	It is a hit nationally, internationally, and we've already done two sit downs with Heather and Drey.
0:42.3	And we've talked about all sorts of stuff. You're going to just go back and watch both of the first two
0:47.7	episodes. Today we're going to be talking about a few things we're going to be talking about.
0:53.2	Heather's, you know, we ended last time with Heather's marriage kind of being on the outs,
1:01.4	kind of moving towards separation or divorce. And we also talked about how that led to Heather and
1:09.3	Drey being able to start their amazing business on Beauty Lab. And we talked a lot about their
1:15.2	business and kind of what they do in beauty and humans and life and that sort of thing. Today,
1:21.6	we're going to be talking about Heather's faith journey and her life post separation and divorce.
1:28.9	We're going to be talking also about Drey's life, her faith journey and her second marriage. And
1:37.0	we are going to be talking then about how they sort of went from being successful business women
1:44.6	to the emergence of this opportunity to be on other Real Housewives. And then we're just going
1:51.2	to talk about what it's like to be on Real Housewives. We're not going to be doing plot spoilers or
1:55.1	getting into personalities. But we're going to ask a lot of questions just about what it's like,
1:59.4	how it works and whatever they want to share. So I'm Dr. John DeLynn. I'm so thrilled to have you
2:05.2	guys back. Thank you for coming back for part three. You guys are glutton for punishment.
2:09.2	Heather's, we have so much to say. Yeah. Back by popular demand. Absolutely.
2:15.4	Heather's, we didn't realize we had so much to say or that it was interesting to anybody.
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