1370: The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City - Heather Gay and Dre Nord Pt. 2
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 18 December 2020
⏱️ 201 minutes
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Summary
Recently I was super fortunate to sit down with reality tv stars Heather Gay and Dre Nord - who are both currently appearing on BravoTV's "Real Housewives of Salt Lake City." In this three-part series, we focus on Heather and Dre's life experiences within the context of Mormonism (and Utah Mormonism).
Part 1 covers...
- Heather and Dre's early years as devout Mormons.
- Dre's marriage, divorce, and faith crisis as a Mormon in her early 20s. This includes how Dre navigated her life as a divorced single ex-Mormon Utah Mom without a college degree.
- Heather's experiences at BYU and serving an LDS mission in France.
- Heather's somewhat challenging efforts to find a faithful Mormon husband (Billy Gay).
- Dre shares how she almost lost her mother to death by suicide, in part due to pressures of "perfectionism" that many Mormon women experience.
- Heather shares some of the reactions she has received from members of the Mormon and ex-Mormon communities, as well as from the Utah LGBTQ community, regarding her participation in the show.
https://youtu.be/svHV0bQEHwA
Part 2 covers...
- Heather's marriage to Billy Gay III, which culminated in Heather becoming Relief Society President ended in divorce.
- How Heather and Dre met, and how they were able to build a successful, multi-million dollar business together (Beauty Lab Laser) as divorced Mormon single women in Utah.
- Dre shares the tragic story of losing her brother to suicide last year, and how she and Heather created a 501c3 non-profit called "Don't Leave" to help "break the stigma around mental health."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtUYWOc_JOo&feature=youtu.be
Part 3 covers...
- Heather's struggle to accept the end of her "Eternal Marriage," which included years of denial.
- Heather's life as a divorced single Mom, which included experimentation with things she never considered trying as a devout Mormon (e.g. alcohol).
- How Heather's perspective on Mormonism changed once she became dear friends with two wonderful gay Mormon men.
- Heather and Dre discuss their opinions about how harmful the LDS Church's doctrine around LGBTQ members is.
- Heather and Dre also discuss the ways in which the LDS Church's "Proclamation on the Famly" harms not only LGBTQ members, but also Mormon women/girls and men/boys as well.
- Heather discusses her current struggle to reconcile her longstanding orthodox Mormon beliefs as they conflict with her developing beliefs about life.
This is a heartwarming, epic, and inspiring story of resilience. I was deeply moved by this vulnerability, wisdom, courage, and resilience of these inspiring women.
Please share any questions or comments you have for Heather and Dre below.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome back to another edition of |
| 0:02.0 | Morma Stories podcast. I'm your host John DeLynn. |
| 0:04.0 | It's December 14th, 2020. |
| 0:06.0 | And I am over the moon excited to have |
| 0:10.0 | Heather Gay and Dre Nordback. |
| 0:12.0 | They are both appearing in |
| 0:16.0 | season one of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City on Bravo TV. |
| 0:20.0 | Heather is one of the main six cast members and Dre has been appearing |
| 0:26.0 | as Heather's friend and business partner. |
| 0:28.0 | They have a business together. They have these amazing stories. |
| 0:32.0 | On Marguine I have been loving watching Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. |
| 0:38.0 | We're five episodes in to season one. |
| 0:40.0 | It's a lot of fun. It's crazy. |
| 0:44.0 | But what you don't get to see are the real people and the real women kind of behind |
| 0:50.0 | the theatrics. I don't know if is it okay to say that guys? |
| 0:54.0 | It's entertainment. It's not a documentary. |
| 0:58.0 | Yeah. And so we're five episodes in. |
| 1:04.0 | And if you didn't get a chance, we spent three hours with Heather and Dre |
| 1:10.0 | just last week on the previous episode. And it's such an amazing story just to recap briefly. |
| 1:16.0 | Dre grew up in Virginia in some of those elite Orthodox Mormon words. |
| 1:22.0 | Dre was an Orthodox Mormon. And every way she got married young, probably a little |
| 1:28.0 | bit too young and had a kid. And then in that process Dre realized that the church wasn't |
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