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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

137. Maps of Meaning 09: Patterns of Symbolic Representation

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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🗓️ 20 September 2020

⏱️ 137 minutes

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In this lecture, Dr. Peterson discusses the manner in which the fundamental symbolic archetypes (particularly those dealing with the Wise King and Tyrant) are hijacked for the purposes of propaganda. Ideologies are parasites. Their hosts are archetypes. Knowledge of the underlying archetypes can produce immunity against ideological possession. For Advertising Inquiries, visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheJordanBPetersonPodcast

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0:00.0

So today we're going to delve a little bit more deeply into the realm of symbolic representation.

0:21.4

And I'll tell you what I think I'm doing, and then I'll show you a bunch of examples

0:28.0

of it, then I want to tell you a couple more stories. And so I'll tell you the stories

0:31.6

in the second half of the class. So you know, it was Carl Jung who popularized and differentiated

0:39.8

the idea of archetypes. They weren't his idea. Platonic forms are archetypes, essentially.

0:47.4

Ideals are an archetype. And so, but Jung, the thing that I think he did that hadn't been

0:52.6

done before was to suggest that as well as suggesting, as Freud did that human beings

1:01.0

are composed of subpersonalities, Jung pointed out, as Freud did to some degree, that some

1:08.3

of those personalities have a universal character, and so that they can be thought about as transcendent

1:13.9

entities. And you could think about those, while they have been thought about and even

1:19.1

put forward as gods of one form or another. Now, when Jung talked about archetypes, it

1:25.7

was never clear what he meant. And I think the reason for that was because the archetype

1:30.3

is a very complicated idea and a very complicated phenomena. And you can think about it biologically,

1:35.4

and you can think about it socially, and you can think about it as something that the individual

1:38.8

participates in creating. So it's not that easy to localize it. And as well, it's not

1:48.9

that easy to localize it. And as well, Jung was never clear about what the universe of

1:56.7

archetypes looked like. At some times, he spoke as if they were a relatively small number,

2:02.0

and then at other times, he spoke as if they were innumerable. And I think the reason

2:06.1

for that is, in part, it depends on the level of analysis. The more transcendent the

2:11.8

archetype, the fewer they are. But they differentiate, because you might say, well, how many

2:16.0

hero archetypes are there? And one answer could be one, but they differentiate all the

2:21.2

way out into the diverse range of works of fiction that we have. So you could say there's

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