And okay, that'll just be you're

you're very professional.

You know people are like

How do you live and things like that there?

You're taking money from the Russians and of course the answer is no but I do this

for a living like I speak I don't have a YouTube channel that where it's you know I'm

Joe Rogan but I give speeches at universities and things like that. I do a lot of interviews and so

We're recording now right?

Is it possible that you could do a YouTube channel? Would that work?

Yeah like I mean if you introduce me so like I get followers yeah we could do that. Dude I'm all in that that could absolutely happen do you want to do that is that Do you want to do that? Is that something you want to do?

No, I mean this is a big question. So I came on because I had just written a book called

permanent record, which is the story of my life because that's what publishers

make you do when you're writing your first book.

But it's more than that because I didn't just want to talk about me. It's actually about the changing of technology and the changing of government in this sort of post 9-11 era, which in our generation just sort of happened to be growing up during. And I was at the CIA and the NSA and all this stuff,

but the day that the book came out, the government hit me with a lawsuit.

And they hit the publisher of to see books like this get written.

They especially don't want to see books like this get written.

They especially don't want to see books like this get read.

And so the big thing was, you know, we didn't know where this was going,

we didn't know what was going to happen, and my publisher of course wanted me very

badly to let people know this book existed in case the government leaned hard and hard and

harder. We didn't know where where that's going. The government is still pursuing

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