136. I Never Thought of It That Way with Mónica Guzmán

Here's Where It Gets Interesting

Sharon McMahon

Government, History, Storytelling, Education

4.9 • 15.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Sharon talks with Mónica Guzmán, whose new book, I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times helps us learn how to get more comfortable with the uncomfortable. Monica argues that we need to chase “I never thought of it that way” moments we have in order to grow in curiosity. When we manufacture certainty, we tend to see people and the world around us as one-dimensional. It’s important to understand the views of others because we’re not always happy in our echo chambers; we lose relationships, we feel anxiety about the future, and we pin the blame wherever we can. Once we begin to get curious and shine a light on what we perceive as a threat, that threat feels less insurmountable. It’s through curiosity that we can begin to see people from multiple dimensions–they aren’t monsters, they are people, just like us.

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0:00.0	Hello friends, welcome! Always delighted to have you along with me and today I am
0:05.3	chatting with Monica Guzmott. She's written a book that I know you are going to
0:10.0	find fascinating. You will want to head to your local bookstore or your favorite
0:15.3	online shop and get this book as soon as we are done with this conversation
0:18.5	because it is that impactful. The book is called I Never Thought of it that way.
0:24.4	How to have fearlessly curious conversations in dangerously divided times. So let's
0:32.1	dive in! I'm Sharon Nickman and welcome to the Sharon Says So Podcast. Yay! I am
0:40.5	absolutely delighted to have Monica Guzmott with me today and this is going to be
0:44.6	a conversation that I know people will have so many takeaways from because you
0:50.4	have an absolutely insightful and fascinating new book out. Thank you so much for
0:56.6	joining me. Oh thank you for having me. I'm always excited to talk about all this stuff,
1:01.1	all this curiosity that we need. Yes and so the book that I read with such
1:06.5	interest is called I Never Thought of it that way. How to have fearlessly
1:12.0	curious conversations in dangerously divided times. I love it so much. Tell
1:20.1	everybody how you arrived at that title. Ah well I never thought of it that way
1:25.9	is what we think or say whenever some insight has crossed that chasm between
1:32.7	someone else's perspective and our own. There's almost a physical sensation to it.
1:37.4	It lands in your brain and you go I never thought of it that way and then a seed
1:43.2	is planted and you don't know if it's going to be dug up out of the ground the
1:46.4	next day or if it's going to grow into something that could change your life or
1:49.9	significantly affect the way you think about something. But what I realized was if
1:54.0	we're going to be curious enough to see clearly in our hugely divided world we
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