Our life as creative people or as artists or whatever is divided into two halves.

In the first half I would say is our hero's journey, which is really what government achieves it about, when we're walking

into walls and falling off a cliffs and we're basically searching for who we are and what

our calling is.

And that hero's journey, that journey ends

when we find out what our calling is and who we really are,

like we say, okay, I'm a dancer.

I don't care what happens, I'm to dance and then our world shifts and then for the

rest of our lives it becomes about okay what kind of dancer am I? What is my gift? Why did God put me on this planet and how can I deliver that load? How can I give this gift?

Hello friends and welcome back to the Light Watkins show where I interview ordinary folks just like you and me who have overcome their internal resistance

to try to be quote successful in a conventional sense and instead they've taken sometimes extraordinary leaps of faith in the direction of their path,

their purpose, or whatever they've identified to be as their

mission in life.

And in doing so, they've been able to positively impact the lives of many others,

who've either heard about their story or who've witnessed them in action or who have directly

benefited from their work. And today, I'm in conversation with a prolific author who has been perhaps one of the biggest influences in my own personal creative journey.

This is his third appearance on the podcast, his name of

this is his third appearance on the podcast. His name is Stephen Pressfield. He is the author of The War of Art.

Put Your Ass Where Your Heart Wants to Be, Gates of Fire, Man in Arms, and about 20 something other books in total.

And as you may know, Stephen has been one of my personal mentors.

I credit his books with helping me write my books and start my podcast and develop my

shine event and I would say that his book The War of Art specifically is the book that I refer

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