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Mormon Stories Podcast

1346: Shannon Caldwell Montez - The Secret Mormon Meetings of 1922

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2020

⏱️ 243 minutes

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Summary

Join us today as we bring back the wonderful, groundbreaking historian Shannon Caldwell Montez.

Previously on Mormon Stories, Shannon shared with us:

  1. Her research regarding how LDS Church general authority, historian, and chief apologist B.H. Roberts lost his testimony in Book of Mormon historicity, and
  2. Her own heartbreaking and inspiring story as a Mormon woman, wife, and mother.

Today Shannon returns to share with us her research regarding "The Secret Mormon Meetings of 1922" - which were organized by LDS Church General Authority B.H. Roberts after he failed to obtain any meaningful or useful answers from the LDS Church First Presidency, Quorum of the 12, or other General Authorities regarding the deep and significant scientific problems that completely undermine the credibility of the Book of Mormon as ancient history.

Shannon's thesis is outstanding, and it can be found here.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Warmestory's podcast. I'm your host, John

0:14.0

Delin. It is September 21st, 2020 and I could not be more excited to have back for a one

0:23.0

to fourth appearance on Warmestory's podcast, Shannon Coldwell-Montez. Welcome Shannon. Thank you.

0:31.8

Excited to be here again. For those who have been following us closely, we've had Shannon

0:38.6

on three previous times recently. They've been out of the park smash Grand Slam interviews.

0:46.5

We started out with Shannon talking about the rise in fall of Mormon historian,

0:52.7

General Thordy, and Church historian, BH Roberts, talking about how he became aware of

1:00.4

deep problems with the Book of Mormon and his historicity as a General Thordy, as a Church

1:07.4

historian and how that led to a meeting in January of 1922 where BH Roberts called the first

1:19.8

Presidency LDS Church together with the Cormor of the Twelve Apostles and all the Cormor of the 70

1:25.2

to discuss the problems of the Book of Mormon's historicity. It was a super important interview.

1:33.6

Go back and listen to it. This is all from Shannon's master's thesis at the University of Nevada,

1:39.8

at Reno called the Secret Mormon Meetings of 1922. That was the first episode kind of about the

1:47.1

rise in Vol. BH Roberts. Of course, once he called this meeting, put the brethren on notice that

1:52.4

the Book of Mormon had all these deep problems in terms of historicity. He was sent on a mission

1:58.7

and kind of put out to pasture and as soon as he died, the Church has done everything they could

2:03.8

to erase him down the memory hole. That was interview one, interview two, was about Shannon's own story.

2:10.3

It's an epic heartwarming, touching story. Go listen to it. The third interview was specifically

2:17.4

about whether or not BH Roberts lost his testimony in the Book of Mormon's historicity. I think we

2:25.1

left a little room for doubt that BH Roberts lost his testimony in the Book of Mormon's historicity by the end of that third interview with you.

2:34.4

Surprisingly, we've done all these hours and all these episodes, Shannon, without actually talking about the main focus of your

2:43.2

master's thesis, which is the Secret Mormon Meetings of 1922. That's what we're going to be talking about today. Is that right?

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