The following is a conversation with Manoas Kellis, his third time on the podcast.

He is a professor at MIT and head of the MIT Computational Biology Group.

This time, we went deep on the science, biology and genetics.

So this is a bit of an experiment.

Manoas went back and forth between the basics of biology to the latest state of the art and the research.

He's a master at this.

So I just sit back and enjoy the ride.

This conversation happened at 7 a.m., so it's yet another podcast episode after an all-nighter for me.

And once again, since the universe has a sense of humor, this one was a tough one for my brain to keep up,

but I did my best and I never shy away from a good challenge.

Quick mention of e-sponsor followed by some thoughts related to the episode.

First is SCM Rush, the most advanced SEO optimization tool I've ever come across.

I don't like looking at numbers, but someone probably should.

It helps you make good decisions.

Second is pessimist archive.

They're back.

One of my favorite history podcasts on why people resist new things from recorded music to umbrellas,

to cars, chas, coffee and the elevator.

Third is 8th sleep.

A mattress that cools itself, measures heart rate variability, has an app, and has given me yet another reason to look forward to sleep,

including the all-important power nap.

And finally, better help.

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