The following is a conversation with George Hots, aka GeoHot, his second time on the podcast.

He's the founder of Kama AI, an autonomous and semi-autonomous vehicle technology company

that seeks to be to test the autopilot what Android is to the iOS.

They sell the Kama 2 device for $1,000 that will installed in many of their supported

cars can keep the vehicle centered in the lane even when there are no lane markings.

It includes driver sensing that ensures that the driver's eyes are on the road.

As you may know, I'm a big fan of driver sensing. I do believe Tesla, autopilot and others

should definitely include it in their sensor suite. Also, I'm a fan of Android and a big fan of

George, many reasons, including his non-linear out-of-the-box brilliance and the fact that he's

a superstar programmer of a very different style than myself. Stiles make fights and styles

make conversations, so I really enjoy this chat and I'm sure we'll talk many more times on this

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As a side note, let me say that my work at MIT on autonomous and semi-autonomous vehicles

led me to study the human side of autonomy enough to understand that it's a beautifully

complicated and interesting problem space, much richer than what can be studied in the lab.

In that sense, the data that comes with AI, Tesla autopilot, and perhaps others like Cadillac

Supercruiser collecting gives us a chance to understand how we can design safe semi-autonomous

vehicles for real human beings in real world conditions. I think this requires bold innovation

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