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1305: The Stalker - In Time You'll Get the Truth (Bonus)

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2023

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

This podcast series on the stalker case has captured the attention of many listeners, making it one of the most talked-about series on PRETEND. Some listeners have even listened to it multiple times, hoping to find some clue or slip-up that could help them solve the mystery. Listeners are clamoring for more updates. But it's important to note that this type of investigation takes time, and it took me two years to report on this story. The series ended with Tanya and Rick Fernandez being indicted by a grand jury on computer tampering charges and aggravated harassment. Initially, I wasn't sure if the case would even make it to trial. I expected Tanya and Rick to plead guilty and accept a lighter sentence. However, that has yet to happen. In this episode, I will provide an update on where the trial stands and share some interviews I recorded with Tanya and Rick that were not included in the original series. While these interviews didn't align with the story's central plot at the time, they shed some light on the type of drama surrounding this case. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Stalker series is hands down the most talked about pretend series of all time.

0:14.0

It's a real headscratcher, and I've had listeners tell me that they'd listen to it

0:18.2

two, three times hoping to find some sort of slip up or some clue to help them solve

0:23.8

the mystery.

0:24.8

And 13 episodes wasn't enough.

0:27.6

You want more, and you made that loud and clear.

0:32.1

But remember, this story took me two years to report.

0:36.1

These kinds of things take time to unfold.

0:38.9

The series ended with Tanya and Rick Fernandez being indicted by a grand jury on charges

0:44.5

of computer tampering and aggravated assault.

0:48.6

This doesn't mean that the state of Arizona is accusing them of stalking themselves.

0:53.8

They're making the case that the Fernandez have repeatedly harassed the Grasmons and

0:59.0

that the messages originated from their home.

1:02.0

That's all we know.

1:03.1

The grand jury, who meets in secret, may have presented even more evidence that we just

1:08.2

don't know about.

1:09.4

And the only way to find out is if this thing goes to trial in July.

1:14.3

But that's the question.

1:17.8

Will this go to trial?

1:19.4

At first, I wasn't convinced.

1:21.6

I thought for sure that the moment the state threatened some big scary prison sentence

1:26.0

that Tanya and Rick would fold and plead guilty to accept the lighter sentence.

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