So a lot of what we'll be using in our presentation, it comes from the work of Shafali Savary.

And Shafali Savary is actually, her first book was called The Conscious Parent and it

is the Dalai Lama wrote the preface for her first book.

So she received her doctorate in clinical psychology from Columbia and she kind of combines

Eastern and Western in a blend of parenting.

So anyway, just wanted to give credit or credits to.

Go ahead, tell me about the other books too.

I think they're all important.

Sure.

So her first book is The Conscious Parent.

A lot of people tend to start here, which I understand because it is the first book that

she wrote.

It's really a philosophical kind of groundwork book.

So it can be difficult for some people who are wanting to really get practical.

Her second book out of control is great for people who find themselves in control paradigms

a lot.

It's a little more accessible, a little more practical.

It's John's favorite, would you say, out of the three.

And then my favorite is actually the third.

It's called The Awakened Family.

And I like it because it's kind of a blend.

She kind of in the beginning of the book goes through myths that we have with regard to

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