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The Dr Louise Newson Podcast

128 - Making decisions about cancer treatment and the importance of quality of life with Steve Payne

The Dr Louise Newson Podcast

Dr Louise Newson

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Medicine

4.8798 Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Dr Louise Newson is joined by a long-time friend, retired consultant urologist, Steve Payne. Together they discuss Steve and his wife Jan’s experience of her breast cancer and subsequent treatment that led to estrogen depletion. Steve describes the decision-making process they went through as a couple when Jan’s quality of life deteriorated due to severe urine and kidney infections, as well as other symptoms relating to a lack of estrogen. The experts talk about how some people’s experience in cancer care clinics can fall short of patients and their partners being given full and balanced information into how cancer treatments will affect your hormones and what this potentially means for your quality of life. Steve shares his honest reflections and insights about cancer care clinics and offers invaluable advice for those navigating these complex and confusing decisions at such a difficult time. Steve’s advice for making decisions about cancer treatments: Ask what the benefits, and especially the downsides, of the treatment are. It is key that you understand all the pros and cons of a treatment being recommended to you. If it’s treatment for cancer, ask about the pure cancer survival rates – once deaths from other causes have been removed from the data – to make sure you know the actual level of survival benefit that the suggested treatment offers. If you’re having side effects from breast cancer treatment due to a lack of estrogen, have a discussion about the pros and cons of taking HRT, for your particular type of cancer. Ask how taking HRT could improve your daily life and wellbeing and what benefits HRT offers for bone and heart health in the future. Ask how would taking HRT affect your pure cancer survival rate. Steve has written more about his and Jan’s experience and offers practical advice here, along with a new factsheet about making informed decisions during cancer care.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Louise Newsome and welcome to my podcast. I'm a GP and menopause specialist and I run the Newsome Health Menopause and Wellbeing Centre here in Stratford-Bron-Avon. I'm also the founder of the Menopause charity and the Menopause support app called Balance.

0:29.9

On the podcast, I will be joined each week by an exciting guest to help provide evidence-based

0:36.5

information and advice about both the perimenopause and the

0:40.9

menopause.

0:45.6

So today on my podcast, I'm very excited and delighted to welcome yet another man.

0:50.5

There's a few more men coming to the podcast, which is great.

0:53.5

This is a man who I have in very

0:55.3

high esteem, actually, who I've known since the year I qualified as a doctor. So Steve Payne is now a

1:01.1

retired consultant urologist and he's been my husband's mentor for many years. So I'm very

1:07.9

excited, actually, to have him here in a non-work relationship actually, but thanks

1:13.0

Steve for coming today. You're welcome. I, as many of you know, trained at Manchester University,

1:19.0

as did my husband. And Paul's first job actually was in urology, wasn't it, Steve? So that was in

1:25.8

1994, so quite a long time ago. Yeah, it seems a long time ago

1:29.6

and just the start of his long journey. Absolutely, but he had quite difficult time because he

1:35.3

had to cover for another doctor and you always looked after him right from the start actually. And

1:40.1

it's been amazing for have somebody who's just as solid as a rock to be there to help.

1:46.0

Because as you know, being a doctor isn't always plain sailing.

1:48.7

And you just need someone who believes in you actually.

1:52.0

And you've always believed in porn.

1:53.5

And it's incredible actually.

1:54.7

But you still work together.

1:56.3

And certainly before COVID, you were going out and doing some charity work together,

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