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People I (Mostly) Admire

128. Are Our Tools Becoming Part of Us?

People I (Mostly) Admire

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Google researcher Blaise Agüera y Arcas spends his work days developing artificial intelligence models and his free time conducting surveys for fun. He tells Steve how he designed an algorithm for the U.S. Navy at 14, how he discovered the truth about printing-press pioneer Johannes Gutenberg, and when A.I. first blew his mind.

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0:00.0

My guest today, Blaze Aguirrei Arcus is a fellow at Google Research who studies

0:09.2

Artificial Intelligence. He's known for being absolutely brilliant and endlessly creative.

0:15.0

My original ambition was to be a theoretical physicist.

0:18.0

I wanted to understand the nature of the universe and the really big questions.

0:22.0

And honestly, I didn't think about computers. the nature of the universe and the really big questions.

0:22.6

And honestly, I didn't think about computers

0:25.1

as a serious thing as like what I would be doing with my life.

0:28.0

But of course, the more you play around with something,

0:29.7

the better you get at it.

0:37.0

Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve Levitt. Artificial intelligence is altering the way we live in fundamental ways that we're only beginning to comprehend,

0:46.0

and I can't think of a better person than Blaze to help make sense of it all.

1:06.9

I've heard that you started creating products that you started creating products that people wanted at a really early age. Is it true or is it just a legend that as a teenager you created an algorithm for the US Navy that changed the way that they were maneuvering boats greatly reducing seasickness?

1:15.0

You really have done your research?

1:17.3

Yeah, I did.

1:18.2

I think I was 14 at the time.

1:21.2

14, oh God, how, okay, wait, okay, you were 14?

1:26.0

Yeah, so there was this program back then, I don't know if it still exists, but it was a

1:30.1

Cold War thing, I suppose.

1:31.8

There were programs looking for technical kids in the US

1:35.6

I hadn't actually been in the US all that long I moved with my parents from Mexico City

1:39.2

a few years earlier and they were looking for kids to I guess work in the military

1:44.6

industrial complex and the gifted and talented programs and early scores on the

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