To make software useful, honestly, to even make it real, you have to ship it.

Building that web app, then get ready to deploy it.

Building a tool set for data scientists?

How are you going to send them that application?

Did you manage to get a cool GUI app going in Python using Pyside?

It's time to have your user start downloading it.

Python is an amazing ecosystem, but one of the frailer parts of it has been shipping or deploying software, especially to end users.

In this episode, you'll meet Cliff, joining the two of us as we discuss where we are and where we're going with shipping Python code.

This is Talk Python to Me, episode 127 recorded June 12, 2017.

Hello. recorded June 12th, 2017. Welcome to Talk Python to Me, a weekly podcast on Python, the language, the libraries, the ecosystem, and the personalities.

This is your host, Michael Kennedy. Follow me on Twitter where I'm at M. Kennedy. Keep up with the show and listen to past episodes at talk python.fm.

And follow the show on Twitter via at Talk Python. This episode has been brought to you by Rollbar and Datadog. Be sure to check out what they're

offering during their segments. It helps support the show. Hey everyone, two things I want to share

quickly before we jump into the conversation with Cliff. First, when we started talking with him

about what he's up to day to day, at the time of the recording, he couldn't announce the company name or say too much

about what he was doing. But they have since launched, and their name is Pilot. Pilot does bookkeeping

for startups using a combination of expert human bookkeepers and software automation. It's a software

service that does your books, not an app for you to do your own books. So you can find out more about

them by visiting pilot.com. And while you're there, you can imagine that glyph has definitely

shipped some Python code to it. Next, I have a new course to announce. I just released Restful

and HTTP APIs in Pyramid. This course will teach you the mechanics of building amazing APIs in Python,

of course. But you also learn the theory of restful HTTP services in general, how to design them,

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