My guest today Charles Dewig is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and the author of

Blockbuster Best Sellers including The Power of Habit. He's got a new book out entitled Super

Communicators how to unlock the secret language of connection. And I found out

that we're actually living through a golden age of understanding the neurology and psychology of communication.

So there's a lot of insights that can help us.

Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve Levitt.

I honestly believe that understanding how to have great conversations is one of the most valuable and

underappreciated skills a person can develop. I wouldn't have said that three years ago,

but having this podcast has led me to think a lot about conversation. In the two weeks since I read Charles Duhe's book,

I've tried hard to put the book's ideas into practice, and I have to say it has been shocking

to me how powerful these tools are.

So you've got a brand new book and it's called Super Communicators How to Unlock the secret language of connection.

I'm just imagining that if I'd written that book,

I would feel tremendous pressure

to be an amazing conversation partner

and I would hate to have that expectation I always hanging over me.

Do you feel the pressure I'm describing?

Only in one context, which is that ever so often now my wife during a dinner time conversation

when I've like monologue for the last

seven or eight minutes will say, you know, there's this book about communication that I think you could read

that would really help you a lot. No, I think the answer is that I don't feel that

because one of the big insights from this book

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