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#12583 What’s the Best Argument Against Mormonism? Baptism and Beliefs - Joe Heschmeyer

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🗓️ 11 February 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

“What’s the best argument against Mormonism?” This question opens a discussion on the key points of contention between Catholicism and Mormon beliefs. Additionally, the conversation touches on the evidence of divine protection for the magisterium and offers guidance for an ex-Mormon navigating discussions about biblical reinterpretations, such as baptism for the dead.

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Questions Covered:

  • 05:20 – What’s the best argument against Mormonism?
  • 18:15 – What is evidence of divine protection for the magisterium and the Catholic Church as a whole?
  • 35:41 – I’m an ex-Mormon in OCIA. How do I talk to my family about the bible verses that Joseph Smith and reinterpreted such as baptism for the dead.

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Learn more at realestateforlife.org. Hello and welcome to Catholic Answers live. I am Sykelet, your host. Thanks so much for being here with us. Joe Heschmeyer, both hours, and you can ask him whatever you'd like.

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8883187-884. You better start dialing now, though, because Joe's getting so popular. So if you want to get in, you better dial 8883187-884. If you're Catholic, you can ask whatever you like. If you're not Catholic, you can ask whatever you like. If you're not sure whether you're Catholic or not, you can ask us that. We'll let you know whether you are. 8883187-884, AAA-3184. 3187-884. Joe Heschmire, Apologist here at Catholic Answers, author of a lot of books you hear us giving away, particularly I think we give a lot of way of the Eucharist is really Jesus, but he's also the author of Pope Peter. The early church was the Catholic Church. We give that one away quite a bit as well. Joe Heschmire, welcome. Thanks. It's good to be here. It's good to have you. We're going to do some work in addition to the work that you're going to do today, which is we're in the second day of our quarterly pledge drive. So we'll take a few minutes out of the hour to ask people to call and help us to be fully funded for the next three months. I'm going to ask you in a minute, Joe, what's the best argument when talking to Mormons? What's the best argument a Catholic can make when talking to Mormons? Do you feel prepared for a difficult question like that? I'm happy to do my best. You're going to give it a shot? I'm happy to tackle it. The subject I've explored before and with members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I think I have some ground upon which to give an answer. We'll say that. You know what, I'm glad to hear you say the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, because they have called me and they've said, would you please, it's okay to use the word Mormon, but don't forget to call us what we call ourselves. And I think that's a perfectly fair thing on their part. Yes, I will call you what you call to say. It's hard to say every time because it is a mouthful. Because it's a lot. You know, and I get it. You know, we've been called Romanists and papists

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and all sorts of silly names. And Mormon isn't meant in a derogatory way, but I want to be respectful for people who say that's how we hear it, even if that's not how you mean to say that. Right. Fair enough. All right. I'll tell you what. Let me give a different number

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out now because the lines for Joe are starting to fill up. And we have a $20,000 for dollar match

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this hour, just as we did yesterday. And I'm going to tell you right now, yesterday we met our match

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the first hour, then we met our match the second hour. If we can keep that up for just four more

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hours, we will be fully funded

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for the next three months. So I don't want to spend a lot of time on that. And I am going to get

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to the LDS question that I have for Joe. But let me set the stage for you about how this all works,

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