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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1258: Ryan Holiday | Wisdom Takes Work

The Jordan Harbinger Show

Jordan Harbinger

Business, Education, Science

4.8 β€’ 12.1K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Wisdom isn't about what you know β€” it's what you actually do. Author Ryan Holiday breaks down why virtue requires action, not just good intentions.

Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1258

What We Discuss with Ryan Holiday:

  • Wisdom isn't knowledge β€” it's the consistent application of knowledge when nobody's watching. Ryan distinguishes between knowing something intellectually and actually living it. You can memorize every Stoic principle ever written, but if you don't apply those lessons when you're stressed, angry, or tempted, you don't possess wisdom β€” you just own some expensive bookshelf decorations.
  • Reading is a legitimate superpower that lets you download decades of human experience in hours. Books give you access to conversations with the greatest minds across history β€” people you could never meet, asking questions you'd never think to ask. It's not about collecting titles; it's about systematically absorbing hard-won lessons from people who already made the mistakes.
  • The Dunning-Kruger effect explains why fools rarely doubt themselves while the wise remain perpetually curious. True wisdom requires intellectual humility β€” acknowledging the vast ocean of what you don't know. The loudest voices in any room are usually the least informed, while genuine experts understand their knowledge has limits.
  • Ego is wisdom's silent assassin β€” it convinces you that you've already arrived when the journey never actually ends. Ryan's refusal to obsessively check book rankings isn't false modesty; it's strategic protection against letting external validation corrupt the creative process. Soaking up applause feels good but produces nothing new.
  • Treat learning as a lifelong practice: absorb knowledge as if you'll live forever, but act with the urgency of someone who might not see tomorrow. This ancient Latin wisdom reframes curiosity as non-negotiable and action as time-sensitive β€” a powerful combination that turns passive information consumption into meaningful, immediate application.
  • And much more...

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0:00.0

Coming up next on the Jordan Harbinger Show.

0:02.6

You read a lot about America.

0:03.8

You spend a lot of time in America.

0:04.9

You're like, Americans do this.

0:06.8

You know, Americans fuck this up.

0:09.0

This is the importance of both travel and the study of history

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is because you read about Rome and Sparta and Athens.

0:17.3

And you go, oh, wait, every country does this stuff.

0:20.1

Every country is bad. Yeah. Every country does this stuff. Every country is bad.

0:21.5

Yeah.

0:21.7

Every country has shameful secrets.

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Every country has weird, hilarious quirks.

0:26.9

Every country has practices that make no sense.

0:32.8

Welcome to the show.

0:33.9

I'm Jordan Harbinger.

0:35.3

On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into

0:41.0

practical advice that you can use to impact your own life and those around you. Our mission

0:45.3

is to help you become a better informed, more critical thinker through long-form conversations

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